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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2026 9:28 am Post subject:

W.B.:

Gotcha! (thanks for the heads-up!) Wink

It's pretty clear that, by what I've "loined" from yourself and MaBSTOA 15, that the 1960s was when a HUGE purge took place, regarding the "Kramdens" and "Pattons"inherited from FACCo and "Soiface".

As you and I both know, by 1971, the few remaining "Kramdens" (those unique 5106s) were prematurely (and how!) retired,leaving only the inherited "Jetsons".

Sure with, though, we could see more early "stoa"-era photos, showcasing the fleet of battle-scarred, veteran "Kramdens" and "Pattons"..............

"NYO"

MaBSTOA 15 · Age: 72 Joined: 27 Feb 2013 Posts: 1195

This is the Mount Vernon depot of Westchester Street Transportation. Formerly the Surface Transportation garage that you mentioned earlier.

Here is ex-Fifth Avenue Coach number 2500 transferred to Westchester during the 1962 strike that ended Fifth Avenue Coach.

Partially hidden in the back is one of 34 GM TDH-3610 purchased and lettered for Surface Transportation and it was used only in Westchester.

The Mount Vernon depot had the following routes assigned to it
A New Rochelle - Yonkers
B Mount Vernon - 2219 Street
C 5 Avenue - Mt Vernon
D North Pelham
E Gramatan Avenue
F New Rochelle
G Pelham
H Pelham Manor
HJ Pelham Manor New Rochelle
J Glen Island
L Hudson Park
M New Rochelle Tuckahoe
O Tuckahoe Shuttle
P Webster Avenue

I rode number 2500 several times when visitong relatives in New Rochelle. Unfortunately number 2500 was destroyed in a garage fire in 1968.

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2026 8:26 pm Post subject:

MaNSTOA 15:

THANK YOU for not only sharing this VERY nostalgic old photo, but also, the interesting information on the routes that operated out of the Mount Vernon garage.

How well I recall such ancient, battle-scarred buses from the days of my long-ago youth......ahhh, the memories of REAL buses! Wink

"NYO"

["GMC"]

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2026 12:39 am Post subject:

A few questions........

1:

What were the last "Soiface" buses to use cloth roller curtains?

2:

When the last "Tee-Yay" Old Looks were retired circa-1973, were the buses all displaying mylar curtains, or, were some buses still have cloth signs?

3:

What was the last Staten Island route(s) to use Old Looks?

Appreciate info.......

"NYO"

["NYCTA"]

W.B. Fishbowl · Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2026 12:28 pm Post subject:

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2026 1:02 pm Post subject:

W.B.:

As always, greatly appreciate the info! Wink

It would not surprise me at all if the "Kramdens" assigned to "Isle of Staten" routes only operated during rush hour, in their twilight years.

I clearly remember here in "Joisey", late in the "Shernan" era, you KNEW when another rush hour was nigh, when the veteran "Shermans" came out to play.

With few exceptions, in the later days, you only saw the "Shermans" during rush hours.

BTW:

I have a mixture of cloth and mylar roller curtains in my collection.....

"NYO"

["1 JOURNAL SQUARE"]