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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider wrote:
Sounds like the buses were more interesting than the falls! Laughing


Cyberider:

See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niagara_Falls (EXCELLENT page!!)

Well, I ALWAYS have had a great fascination with the Falls (RICH history, for sure, spanning many eons!) BUT, the vintage buses, themselves were, indeed, an ADDED ATTRACTION, for sure! Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niagara_Falls_Transit_Terminal

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articulated_bus

Recall that, in the late 1930s and 1940s, experimental articulated buses were, indeed, QUITE unorthodox for the time.

In 1937, the BTC (Baltimore) operated one lone TWIN COACH articulated, dubbed "The Queen Mary" (#1019), which ran until just after WW2.

Known as the "Super Twin Coach", this huge, four-axle bus sat 58 passengers; this bus also had a hinge between the two sections.

Unlike most articulated buses, it did not bend horizontally, making it difficult for the bus to round corners...........

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Further:

After the WAR, TWIN COACH again "dabbled" with articulated buses.

Debuting just after the War, these "new generation" Super Twin Coaches* had two diesel engines, mounted under the floor behind the front axle.

Interestingly, the articulated section could only bend vertically.,

Omaha's transit agency purchased 15 of these early articulateds; one trolley bus version was also built, which later operated in Chicago and San Francisco.......

*In 1949, TWIN built one "Super Twin" articulated as an "HPO" (Highway Post Office"), a model "58-D6".

Sources say that this unique USPS bus operated only in California........

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Information on Highway Post Office buses (the last route operated in 1974).........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_Post_Office

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twin was a pretty innovative company with some interesting products. They sold a lot of buses in Chicago and San Francisco but not so successful elsewhere. Perhaps they had the market in some other places like Omaha too.

I was familiar with RPO's but less so with HPO's. PE had a few cars dedicated to that purpose.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider:

I've had in my collection (since my long-ago childhood days!) a tin friction "US MAIL BUS", one of the rarest buses in my collection (it is now over 60 years old!) Shocked

In Great Britain, at least through the 1960s, buses (coaches) still carried mail in the more rural areas ("exchanging the mails" involved the coach drivers exchanging mail pouches during stop-overs en route)

In DC, into the 1950s, pouch mail from Glen Echo and Cabin John were carried aboard PCCs and then, at a location nearer downtown, transferred to USPS trucks.

This unique practice was the last operation in the country where streetcars carried mail........

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is an excellent page (w/vintage photos!) on Highway Post Office buses; check out the beautifully-restored 1941 WHITE 798! Wink

https://postalmuseum.si.edu/exhibition/mail-by-rail/highway-post-office-buses

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, NYO. I didn't know these buses were such a common sight as stated. I'd never seen one! Maybe I wasn't in the right place, as usual.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider wrote:
Thanks, NYO. I didn't know these buses were such a common sight as stated. I'd never seen one! Maybe I wasn't in the right place, as usual.


Cyberider:

I have a photo (somewhere!) that I snapped back in the late 1970s of a long-abandoned MACK (it looked like a "C-45") that had to have been a "Highway Post Office" bus in its first life.

I found this derelict bus sitting in abandoned NYCRR waterfront rail yard in Weehawken, just across from Manhattan

It had a loading door cut into the offside and had the remnants of sorting racks/bins inside the stripped interior.

The bus was painted white and blue with a red stripe under the windows (I was able to nab the builder's plate and a light fixture cover as "souvenirs"! Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Post Office bus trivia........

In 1950, FLXIBLE joined with a number of other bus builders to build special buses ("HPOs") for mail service.

FLXIBLE built at least 11 of these buses in 1950, using the basic "CLIPPER" body.

However, these unique buses had higher roofs than their conventional cousins, as USPS men would be standing up en route, sorting mail as they would in an RPO.

A photo of one of these buses can be found in "FLXIBLE INTERCITY BUSES" (William A. Luke)................

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info, NYO. Unfortunately, I don't have that book, though I thought about acquiring it a number of times. I guess I can picture a tall Clipper!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider wrote:
Thanks for the info, NYO. Unfortunately, I don't have that book, though I thought about acquiring it a number of times. I guess I can picture a tall Clipper!


Cyberider:

Actually, until I read the photo caption (describing the higher roof for increased headroom) I would not have noticed the roof height difference! Wink

On a related note, a number of TV stations in many cities used customized buses as mobile units in the 50s and 60s (I have a few rare tin toys that were inspired by these communications buses!) Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NYO,

Those Clippers were kind of "futuristic" looking. Haven't seen one in ages except in YouTube videos. I think the early ones used a Buick Straight Eight engine.

Communications have always been important to me as I've been an amateur radio operator since 1963.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A most UNORTHODOX "bus" indeed was the rare "BRUCK"........

https://explorenorth.com/library/bus/coachways-bruck.html

https://transpressnz.blogspot.com/2013/09/great-northern-railway-bus.html
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