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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(SEE PREVIOUS POSTS)

Footnote........

CROWN COACH also built some cargo/passenger buses ("Brucks")

One of these unique combo coaches went GREAT NORTHERN TRANSPORT ion 1968.............

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A VERY obscure bus builder was the long, long defunct "FORT GARY AUTO & TRUCK BODY WORKS"; 12 of these buses went into service when the Alaska Highway was completed in 1942.

These rugged buses were noted for their outstanding performance under severe operating and weather conditions.

WESTERN CANADIAN GREYHOUND LINES operated these buses......

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

........if you look at 1960s-era PREVOST coaches (like the "CHAMPION"), it is easy to see that they have some resemblence to the MCIs of that time.............

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Further:

Way back in the day, PREVOST buses could only be found on the now-defunct New Jersey suburban carrier, "SOMERSET" ("The Blue Star Route")

In the late 1960s, "SOMERSET" became the first United States company to purchase these Canadian-built buses (these few buses, AFAIK, were used to replace the last of the old ACF-BRILL C-44s).............

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't have much to add except that I used to think that Prevost buses were something special. However, the ones that come into the Bus Grease Monkey's shop usually have a lot of serious problems.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider wrote:
Don't have much to add except that I used to think that Prevost buses were something special. However, the ones that come into the Bus Grease Monkey's shop usually have a lot of serious problems.


Cyberider:

I first saw PREVOST buses (of various vintages!) up at Niagara Falls, back in 1966, when my folks and I were enjoying a weekend tour (a LOT of FLXIBLES up there, as well!)

I always found it odd that "SOMERSET" was the only New Jersey operator to purchase the "CHAMPION"; it would have been interesting had at least some of the other New Jersey companies purchased some.......

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Truly "unorthodox" buses...............

These two buses, indeed, would MORE than fit the bill...........

Circa-1973, I saw (only this one time) a PSNJ/TNJ suburban Old Look parked at the old PS Terminal in Newark, obviously having been rebuilt with forward-slanting windows, a la Fishbowl (I had just used up my last roll of film in my trusty KODAK Instamatic, and only had enough money left for bus fare home on the #144. Sad

NEVER saw the likes of this "experimental" ever again. Sad

The other, which I DID ride aboard a number of times, in the early/mid-1990s (but, foolishly, never took any photos) was a Fishbowl transit (NHBL) that had been retrofitted with large square windows, similar to those used on an AM GENERAL or a NEW FLYER.

I often wonder if some other bus enthusiast, back then, took any photos of these "customized" buses..........

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NYO,

Pretty bizarre sounding buses!

I did my photography in those days with a Kodak Duoflex, a cheap twin lens reflex that used 620 film. The results were unremarkable.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider:

That memorable day of not having money enough to buy more film (I was 16 then!), I had used two rolls to take pics of the City Subway and the PCCs, as well as take photos of the long-abandoned subway-surface car connecting ramps.

In 1973, all the buses I knew were GMs (the diverse days of non-GM buses were already long gone by that date)

In fact, we didn't see any Flex New Looks until 1976/1977, when the NJDOT purchased nearly 900 of them for various independent companies in the State, including TNJ.

The last of these NJDOT Flxibles have now been gone for nearly 30 years now........man, where do the years go.............

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Further "diversity".......

Through the mid-1960s, several local annual events in my area would bring dozens of charter buses in from far and near; many were out of state, and provided a certain young lad QUITE a bit of interesting of bus watching!

I can still recall (besides the many GMs)

YELLOW 743

SILVERSIDES

ACF-BRILL

FLXIBLE (Clippers/Visicoaches)

AEROCOACH

WHITE (798/1150)

Talk about "The greatest show on Earth! Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More "obscure" buses.....

Though "AUTOCAR" was famous for building trucks for many, many decades, it is interesting to note that, at one time, the company also built buses.

At least one New Jersey company rostered AUTOCAR buses; this was the now-defunct "LAFAYETTE & GREENVILLE"/"GREENVILLE & LAFAYETTE" in Jersey City, back in the late 1930s and 1940s.

To date, I've only seen one circa-1940 photo of one of the L&G "AUTOCAR" buses........

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It must have been a real beast like the Autocar trucks!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider wrote:
It must have been a real beast like the Autocar trucks!


Cyberider:

Indeed!

It was a "flat-nosed" bus, but none the less fearsome looking (the driver, of course, was in full uniform!) Wink

When I was growing up, back in the early and mid-1960s, most of L&G's fleet were various models of Old Looks, but there were also some MACKS as well as several built by REO.

It was not until about 1966/1967, when the first Fishbowls arrived, tthat the oldest, non-GM buses were retired; Mom and I rode them often, back in the day, when I was but a young whippersnapper! Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talk about a HIGHLY UNORTHODOX bus!!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked

Check out TRAILWAYS' "Victory Liner" of WW2........articulated AND built of PLYWOOD!!!!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/take-the-plywood-bus-help-the-boys-overseas/ (GREAT PHOTOS!!) Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a direct descendant to the famed "Pickwick Nite Coach" of nearly a century ago..........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeper_bus

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