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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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 Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:57 pm Post subject: Talk about UNORTHODOX "buses" |
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Here are some "buses" (past and present) that are indeed MOST unorthodox!! 
Check these out; the historic vehicles are indeed QUITE interesting! 
"NYO"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trailer_bus (additional photos at bottom of page!)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nairn_Transport_Company (EXCELLENT historical page; imagine driving this MONSTER across a DESERT with NO air-conditioning, NOR any power steering??) |
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Cyberider
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| Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, NYO:
I think trailer buses were experimented with in Orange County (CA) in the '70's or 80's but don't know how long they lasted.
As for no AC in the desert, people were tougher back then than they are now. Or maybe just less spoiled! |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Cyberider wrote: | Thanks, NYO:
I think trailer buses were experimented with in Orange County (CA) in the '70's or 80's but don't know how long they lasted.
As for no AC in the desert, people were tougher back then than they are now. Or maybe just less spoiled! |
Cyberider:
There are also a number of photos (and articles) online about the infamous "camel" buses that ran in Havana for years; to say they were LESS than efficient and popular are indeed understatements!
Recall, also, that, back in the days before buses, subways, and commuter trains were air-conditioned, white collar workers (men AND women) were expected to wear traditional business attire to the office, no matter what; don't forget, too, that folks had PRIDE in their appearance, back then (TOTALLY unlike today!) 
(I certainly did!)
Regarding the "trailer buses" of many years ago, they, like "conventional" buses were built of STEEL, and NOT plastic, fiberglass, and aluminum........ 
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Cyberider wrote: | Thanks, NYO:
I think trailer buses were experimented with in Orange County (CA) in the '70's or 80's but don't know how long they lasted.
As for no AC in the desert, people were tougher back then than they are now. Or maybe just less spoiled! |
Cyberider:
According to "THE BUS WORLD ENCYCLOPEDIA OF BUSES" (Stauss):
"......the first SuperBus demo was first exhibited in 1984. A three-year test of two truck-hauled passenger modules between downtown LA and Orange County began in 1987......."
".......the standard VOLVO WHITE truc-tractors hauled the passenger modules which were assembled in Mexico City by 'CAPRE'........."
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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"Trolleybus trailers"...........
In a number of European cities, many years ago, many trolleybus operations utilized trailers; these were staffed by conductors, and were a tremendous help to increasing capacity during the rush hours.
Though some trailers were single-axle, most were two axle.........
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Double-ended trolley buses...............??
In the 1930s and 1940s, Brussels operated a small number of double-ended trolleybuses, in addition to the more conventional vehicles in their fleet.
These highly-unusual buses (thought to be the only ones of their kind ever built) came in both three axle-and two-axle varieties.
Needless to say, these electric buses were QUITE unusual!
"NYO"
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Cyberider
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| Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds very practical. They can go anywhere and not have to back out.  |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Cyberider wrote: | | Sounds very practical. They can go anywhere and not have to back out. |
Cyberider:
Think of all the streetcar reversal loops in countless cities that were put to good use once the loops (which served single-ended cars) became the domain of buses/trolleybuses.
When PSNJ began converting operations to one-man, virtually all of the cars then operating on the HUDSON Division were re-configured as single-ended cars.
Interestingly, those operating on the ESSEX and BERGEN Divisions remained double-ended cars until the end, although they had all been converted to one-man operation by the early 1930s...........
"NYO"
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Cyberider
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| Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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NYO:
Mack had a railbus but I'd never seen a Fishbowl. On what line was this used and for how long? |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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Cyberider:
That Fishbowl "railbus" operated on the trackage on the (then Branford Trolley Museum, today's Shore Line Museum) at East Haven.
It never carried revenue passengers in railbus mode.
Interestingly, in the early 1970s a RED ARROW Fishbowl (Philadelphia) was also so-fitted (with retractable flanged wheels) and ran on what is today's #s 101/102 suburban trolley lines, in experimental service (there are photos online)
(This was was RED ARROW #410, and its sign read "HY-RAIL-BUS")
Such buses would have been ideal for running along abandoned private ROW, serving different areas with little expense required.
Sadly, neither experiment was further carried out, though performances, overall, were generally very good......
"NYO"
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Cyberider
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| Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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NYO,
Thanks for the information. I pulled out my book on the Red Arrow Lines but it "only" covered the first hundred years, 1848 to 1948. An interesting operation with interesting equipment. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629
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| Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Cyberider wrote: | NYO,
Thanks for the information. I pulled out my book on the Red Arrow Lines but it "only" covered the first hundred years, 1848 to 1948. An interesting operation with interesting equipment. |
Cyberider:
Speaking of Red Arrow, I think you'll like this nostalgic photo of a REAL bus (and a REAL "interurban")! 
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?88027
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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