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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 23138 Location: NEW JOISEY
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:26 am Post subject: |
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As mentioned previously, the R-44's* were the first production model car for "Noo Yawk" to be equipped with door chimes.........
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?24695
(courtesy:nycsubway.org)
['E"]
*(Urban "artists", back in the day, referred to the 44/46 as "bing bongs") |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 57 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 2539 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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I think I was on that. Must've been the same type as manufactured for use on the buses by Gulton/Luminator. |
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 57 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 2539 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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That strip map would definitely have been pre-1975. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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W.B.:
Recall how much time and expense was involved, when the "Em-Tee-Yay" was doing clearance testing for the 44's?
I've long wondered why they simply did not keep the 44's (and later 46's) at the same length as the "Standards" (67').
And, as you know, those wonderfully- noisy old "A-B's" had NO PROBLEMS in digesting rush hour crowds!
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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"Clearance train" info..........
Using cut-up and stretched-out former R-1 #192 (fitted out with detection "whiskers", and a host of other Rube Goldberg-type equipment), the clearance train used to detect obstructions on lines where the R-44's would eventually operate, did its job well.
A total of 119 obstructions were detected along the subway lines (platforms, concrete catwalks on curves, wires, light fixtures, etc.)......
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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traildriver
Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2462 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 6:10 am Post subject: |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote: |
IMHO, the ancestor of this open-gangway unit were the BMT's "C"-units of the mid-1920's.
These ungainly-looking (but quite interesting!) units were rebuilt from open platform El cars, re-equipped with enclosed ends and sliding doors (interestingly, the doors were hung outside the car bodies, once a commonplace practice in Boston.
Like the R-21T, these trains LOOKED like articulated units, but, also like the R-211T, were not.
There were covered passageways between cars, giving the impression of an articulated unit (again, hints of the R-211T)
These unique units ran until 1956 on the old Fulton El........
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?112792 |
Love this photo...it shows the 'tower' portion of my alma mater, BTHS. This structure occupying the 9th thru 12th floors of the HS, were home at one time of pioneer FM radio station, WNYE, owned and operated by the NYC Board of Education, and produced all scholastic, non commercial programming, including the "High School of the Air". The studio's and transmitter's were within, and the antenna was located adjacent to it.
Tech offered courses in broadcast engineering in its syllabus.
When I attended Tech in the early '60's, the Myrtle Avenue Local was using the "Q Cars". You could see them and even hear them pounding the El, clear across Fort Greene Park from the North side upper floor windows of the school... |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:42 am Post subject: |
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traildriver:
GREAT memories, my friend.....thanks for sharing here!
Those unforgettable "Q" cars indeed, had QUITE a history to them; starting life as open-platform elevated gate cars, they were rebuilt (as you of course know) into more up to date rolling stock for the 1939 World's Fair, with enclosed ends and automatic doors.
In 1950, these cars replaced the old IRT "Composites" on the 3rd Avenue El, where they ran until the Manhattan section of the El closed in 1955, along with the MUDC Cars.
When the "Composites" were scrapped, their trucks were then installed under the "Q" car bodies; the original BMT trucks were too heavy for the spindly elevated structure along 3rd Avenue.
They were then transferred back to the BMT, where they replaced the last convertible gate cars on the Myrtle Avenue El (1958); interestingly, their roofs had to be rebuilt/lowered so as to allow the units to have sufficient clearance in the subway to reach CIY yard.
When the Myrtle Avenue El closed in 1969, these venerable and charming old cars had the distinction of being the last wooden cars in revenue passenger service in the United States!
Yes, these cars indeed had QUITE a fascinating lifespan!
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:00 am Post subject: |
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Those memorable "Arnines".........
These cars were the also the very last new cars for New York with "deck" or "clerestory" roofs; the MULTI-SECTIONS, 1938 "Eye-Are-Tee" WF cars, and the postwar R-10/12/14's all had "monitor" roofs, as were the norm on the old "Aitch & Em".
Recall, also, that an "Arnine" (#1575) was rebuilt as an R-10 prototype, after the War; this car could not MU* with the "Thunderbird" R-10's when they arrived, and many fans of that era did a double-take when they saw what LOOKED to be an R-10, running in a train of prewar "Arnines"!
*(remember, that the older prewar "Arnines" had two motors, while the new "Are-Tens" had four).........
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:06 am Post subject: |
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This timeless 1969 view makes for a great "side-by-side comparison" image, depicting a "Thunderbird" alongside a prewar "Arnine".........
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?44091
(courtesy:nycsubway.org)
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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Here in 1980, we have a "tagged" train of veteran "Thunderbirds" at Eighth Avenue (note no route/destination signs displayed, commonplace for those days)...........
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl//show?2498
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)
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