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New Staten Island Ferryboat to enter service/Ferry history
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

....and two "#1" trains:

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?6735

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?24616

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interestingly, when postwar SMEE (R-12) equipment replaced the last prewar IRT cars on the Bronx 3rd Avenue El (1969), even though the line was officially designated the "#8", the cars did not display that number in their sign boxes.......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?12241

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Yes, sir, this IS the #7 train, but this train does NOT go to Flushing..... Rolling Eyes

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?26377

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recalling the days when "#4" trains ran on both the IRT and the BMT......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?113295

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2771

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(Remember, also, that, way back in the day (especially pre-Chrystie) folks still used the old "IRT" and "BMT" terminology, so, unless you were a visiting out-of-towner, it would have been difficult to confuse like-numbered routes)

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.....though the 1948 R-12 cars introduced end roller signs that displayed both the route and the terminal, the very first use of end roller curtains on the IRT were introduced with the 1938 World's Fair cars.

These signs were quite miniscule, to say the least, especially when compared to the large end sign boxes on the IND's rolling stock, and the BMT's "D"-types and lightweight "Multi-Section" units.

The 1938 cars still utilized the old-fashioned IRT metal plates for routes and destinations, in side apertures.

See:

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?45874

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?7175

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting back to the SI Ferry.......

When the "VERRAZZANO" was decommissioned in the fall of 1981, its retirement marked the beginning of the end for the last vestiges of steam-powered vessels in NY Harbor.

With the passing of the "KOLF" and the "MERRELL", the long and colorful era of the steam ferry, which began in the early 1800's, vanished forever down the echoing corridors of time. Sad

Hard to believe, that, as recently as the 1960's, NY Harbor still teemed with steam-powered ferryboats; The NYCRR was still using ancient steam tugs right up until the Penn-Central merger in 1968.

Too, remember the graceful steam-powered liners that once docked at the West Side piers, through the 60's.

Yesterday's commonplace.....today's memories........

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the old 69th St. Ferry shut down in late 1964, it forever severed a valuable "overflow outlet" to the VZ Bridge.

Today, the traffic over the span is often gridlocked on both levels, and, with the 69th St. boats long gone, there is, of course, no alternate way to get over to Brooklyn (via private auto)

I truly believe that, had the "Powers That Be", back in the early 1960's, could have gazed into a crystal ball and saw, with their own eyes, the horrendous gridlocks that the VZ is subject to, the 69th St. Ferry would have been retained.

IMHO, the 69th St. Ferry should have been taken over by the PA, and retained as an "overflow" route alternate to the bridge.

Remember, also, that, since the 9/11 attacks, the SI Ferry has not carried vehicles; here, there is a lack of a way for a motorist to go from Staten Island to Manhattan, without having to to fight the traffic over the Bridge, and then have to travel through Brooklyn, to finally reach Manhattan.

Personally, I truly believe that there should be at least SOME return to vehicular ferries in NY Harbor; jut look at how much vehicular traffic the massive Puget Sound ferries carry to this very day......

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an interesting page on the Washington State Ferries (as you can see, this is a huge and important operation).......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_State_Ferries
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Click on a vessel's name for a photo of the ferry, as well as historical data and additional photos (there are many ferries listed on this page)........

https://evergreenfleet.com

(Interesting to note that the "CITY OF SACRAMENTO" was once the Jersey Central's "ASBURY PARK", running on the old "Sandy Hook Route" between Lower Manhattan and the CRRNJ pier at Atlantic Highlands)
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also of interest......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_Electric-class_ferry
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Closer to home, the Cape May-Lewes Ferry's monolithic vessels carry a massive volume of vehicular traffic.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_May-Lewes_Ferry
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Until 1964, when the new tunnel/bridge opened, these huge ferries once crossed the Chesapeake Bay (like the Cape May Ferry, these boats were all single-ended)

When the line shut down in 1964, one of the boats was sold for further service on the Cape May crossing.........

https://www.esva.net/~rwest/ferries.html
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like the aforementioned ferry lines, the Port Jefferson-Bridgeport ferry utilizes huge vessels that more resemble "seagoing ships" than ferries (but still quite impressive!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgeport_%26_Port_Jefferson_Ferry
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.......on this day in 1964, the 69th St. Ferry, running between St. George and Brooklyn, was shut down. Crying or Very sad

Mom and I rode this crossing many, many times when Your's Truly was just a little shaver, and I can STILL hear the distinctive horns of those old green "ELECTRIC FERRIES"!

We did get to ride two of the ex-Brooklyn boats for a few more years ("THE TIDES" and "THE NARROWS") on the CRRofNJ Liberty St. crossing from Jersey City.

I still miss those boats, and still clearly recall the long, long lines of vehicles at St. George, waiting to board, prior to the late 1964 opening of the VZ Bridge.......

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I am not one to really "delve" into the news (given the sorry state of the world these days) I was not aware that the veteran SI ferry, the "PVT. JOHN F. KENNEDY" had been retired this past August.

I was, not surprisingly, quite saddened by this news, as the "KENNEDY" was the very last of the SI ferryboats that I grew up with. Crying or Very sad

In fact, Mom and I rode her the first week she was in service; and I still have (in a frame) the postcard Mom bought me from the newsstand at the Whitehall Street terminal showing the "KENNEDY" docking at St. George.

I can still hear this ferryboat's screaming, high-pitched engines (the old E-L ferryboat "LACKAWANNA" [aka "Whining Willie"] had engines that sounded much the same; I made an audio tape of the "KENNEDY", back in the summer of 1978)

I've heard she MAY be added to the list of NYC (and State) landmarks; as she is the only surviving "veteran" SI FERRY, the very last boat that was designed to carry vehicles, it would be nothing short of wanton vandalism to consign this beautiful old ferry to the torch. Crying or Very sad

I have many, many memories of this classic, veteran ferryboat, going all the way back to 1965.

I hope the fates are kind to her, now that she is no longer part of the SI fleet, after serving Staten Islanders for nearly 60 years........

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