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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 22691 Location: NEW JOISEY
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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My previous post (regarding the proposal for a CTA guided "busway" sixty years back) led me to do a little research........
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guided_bus
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Just "branching off" from the main topic of monorails for a moment......
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_Rapid_transit
Though quite popular in many cities around the world, such systems are clearly not a part of the mass transit scene (despite many proposals) in the greater New York/New Jersey area.
Myself, I have long envisioned a BRT system that stretched eastward from the suburban areas of New Jersey, and then, having the center tube of the Lincoln Tunnel reserved for their exclusive use (either that, or building a fourth tube, one reserved for BRT buses) for the remainder of the trip into Manhattan.
Envisioning a New York-area BRT network, indeed, does make for some interesting thinking......
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps an "ancestor of sorts" to modern-day BRT's was the introduction of reverse-flow, bus only lanes in certain locales.
New Jersey's Rt. 3 ("S-3" to older locals) was/is the densely-served throat of not only DE CAMP's suburban operations, but also, the other suburban carriers of the day, when "reverse flow" lanes were coming into vogue, during rush hours.
In a 1978 "MOTOR COACH AGE" issue featuring the history and operations of DE CAMP, the aforementioned had become a "de facto" busway, but, it had few amenities, other sidewalks; the buses of all carriers made stops at interchanges, about every half-mile on the average, according to the article.....
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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A true bus rapid transit system has to be Boston's "Silver Line", where articulated buses at the outer ends operate like buses with fares paid entering, and then when the bus transforms from diesel to trolley power, and enters the subway tunnels, it transforms into a "train", with fare collection at turnstiles at station entrances.
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Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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traildriver wrote: | A true bus rapid transit system has to be Boston's "Silver Line", where articulated buses at the outer ends operate like buses with fares paid entering, and then when the bus transforms from diesel to trolley power, and enters the subway tunnels, it transforms into a "train", with fare collection at turnstiles at station entrances.
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traildriver:
Agreed, 100%!
I'm willing to wager that the drivers of the "SILVER LINE" articulateds have not the SLIGHTEST idea that the ancestors of their modern, dual-powered monsters were indeed "Joisey Boys"......PSNJ's then-unique ASV!
Had PS paved over the City Subway in Newark (as they had desired) after the War, it would have been quite interesting, to say the least, had the "#7" line itself become a pre-payment "busway" for the new-generation General Motors ASV's (diesel-electric 4509's), with all fares paid at on-line stations.
What derailed the conversion of the City Subway to an all-ASV system was the fact that the City of Newark refused to foot the bill for paving over the Subway; this is what led PS to shop for used, "modern" streetcars, which, in this case, turned out to be a group of ex-TCRT PCC's........
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