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The TransitMan
Age: 45 Joined: 14 Oct 2010 Posts: 240 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:39 am Post subject: CBS Lines and Inter County Coach...CLOSING???!!! |
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Ok, from another website...CBS Lines and Inter-County are closing (or at least shutting down Suffolk Transit operations).
The routes from CBS Lines will be moved to Suffolk Bus and Inter County routes will be moved to EBT. Personally, I see Suffolk Bus (Bay Shore) getting some of those routes from Inter County (like the S54, S57, S63, 2A and 2B).
Anyways, I assume this is a union thing so what's the story? |
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S-60 To Smith Haven Mall
Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 1757 Location: Suffolk County, NY
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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The Inter-County Coach could be a mistake because I heard that Inter-County was receiving EBT's routes
The county didn't renew its contract with CBS Lines, I'm not sure about the Inter-County - EBT thing.
Each union does have its own union
Suffolk Bus Corp - TWU 252
CBS Lines - ????
Inter-County - Teamsters Local
Sunrise Coach - Teamsters Local
HJ - ?????
EBT - Some small named one that I can't remember |
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The TransitMan
Age: 45 Joined: 14 Oct 2010 Posts: 240 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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S-60 To Smith Haven Mall wrote: | The Inter-County Coach could be a mistake because I heard that Inter-County was receiving EBT's routes
The county didn't renew its contract with CBS Lines, I'm not sure about the Inter-County - EBT thing.
Each union does have its own union
Suffolk Bus Corp - TWU 252
CBS Lines - ????
Inter-County - Teamsters Local
Sunrise Coach - Teamsters Local
HJ - ?????
EBT - Some small named one that I can't remember |
That makes MORE sense to me since E.B.T. has a lot of School Buses. So I would assume that this move would take place in January? If so, then just expect buses from those depots to be moved to their NEW home. |
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Jimbo
Age: 73 Joined: 13 Apr 2010 Posts: 192 Location: Greenport, NY
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Suffolk County ask for RFP's (request for proposals) back in the spring for all the Suffolk County Transit routes. The proposal took all the existing county routes (served by six different companies) and placed them in four (4) service groups. Routes operated by EBT and ICMC were combined into service group #1. Routes operated by Suffolk Bus are service group #2. Routes operated by CBS Lines, service group #3. Routes operated by Sunrise Coach Lines and Hampton Jitney, service group #4. |
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S-60 To Smith Haven Mall
Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 1757 Location: Suffolk County, NY
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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The TransitMan wrote: | S-60 To Smith Haven Mall wrote: | The Inter-County Coach could be a mistake because I heard that Inter-County was receiving EBT's routes
The county didn't renew its contract with CBS Lines, I'm not sure about the Inter-County - EBT thing.
Each union does have its own union
Suffolk Bus Corp - TWU 252
CBS Lines - ????
Inter-County - Teamsters Local
Sunrise Coach - Teamsters Local
HJ - ?????
EBT - Some small named one that I can't remember |
That makes MORE sense to me since E.B.T. has a lot of School Buses. So I would assume that this move would take place in January? If so, then just expect buses from those depots to be moved to their NEW home. |
Yeah, Suffolk Bus will get CBS's routes and buses around new year's.
I don't know about EBT-Inter County since I've heard one thing and someone heard another. I would assume any transfer between the two would happen around New Year's as well. |
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S-60 To Smith Haven Mall
Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 1757 Location: Suffolk County, NY
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Jimbo wrote: | Suffolk County ask for RFP's (request for proposals) back in the spring for all the Suffolk County Transit routes. The proposal took all the existing county routes (served by six different companies) and placed them in four (4) service groups. Routes operated by EBT and ICMC were combined into service group #1. Routes operated by Suffolk Bus are service group #2. Routes operated by CBS Lines, service group #3. Routes operated by Sunrise Coach Lines and Hampton Jitney, service group #4. |
That doesn't sound like what the county agreed upon following that law suit, unless they quietly changed the agreement. |
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The TransitMan
Age: 45 Joined: 14 Oct 2010 Posts: 240 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Suffolk Transit Bus Roster
As of January 1, 2012
***So would Suffolk Transit look like this come January? (Providing that the information is correct)***
Hampton Jitney Bus Depot
Total Buses: 7
Routes: 10A, 10B, 10C, S90, S94 (Summer ONLY)
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5041-5042
2010 Orion 07.502 “New Generation” Low Floor: 1064
2010 Orion 07.503 “New Generation” Low Floor: 1074-1077
NOTE: About two or three buses from Sunrise Coach stay at Hampton Jitney to provide Greenport/Orient Point bound service on the S92 in the morning from East Hampton.
Inter-County Motor Coach Bus Depot
Total Buses: 54
Routes: 1A, 1B, 2A, 2B, S1, S20, S23, S25, S27, S29, S31, S33, S35, S54, S57, S63
1999 Orion 05.503: 9913, 9915, 9918
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5021-5034, 5051-5053, 5055-5056, 5060
2008 Gillig Advantage BRT Low Floor: 8001-8004
2010 Orion 07.501 “New Generation” Low Floor: 1001-1009
2010 Orion 07.502 “New Generation” Low Floor: 1039-1056
Suffolk Bus Corporation Bus Depot (Ronkonkoma Yard)
Total Buses: 48
Routes: 5A, 6A, 6B, 7A, 7B, 7D, 7E, S56, S58, S59, S60, S61, S62, S66, S68, S69, S71, S76, S110 (Suffolk Clipper)
2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102 Suburban: 2000-2002, 2004-2005
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5011-5016, 5057-5059, 5071-5081
2010 Orion 07.502 “New Generation” Low Floor: 1031-1038, 1057-1063
2010 Orion 07.503 “New Generation” Low Floor: 1066-1073
Suffolk Transportation Inc Bus Depot (Bay Shore)
Total Buses: 28
Routes: 3A, 3B, 3C, 3D, 3E, S40, S41, S42, S45, S47 (Summer Only)
1999 Orion 05.503: 9920, 9923, 9928
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5001-5010
2010 Orion 07.503 “New Generation” Low Floor: 1016-1030
Sunrise Coaches Inc. Bus Depot
Total Buses: 17
Routes: 8A, 10D, 10E, S92
2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5054, 5091-5096
2010 Orion 07.501 “New Generation” Low Floor: 1010-1015
2010 Orion 07.502 “New Generation” Low Floor: 1065
2010 Orion 07.503 “New Generation” Low Floor: 1078-1081
Of course, this roster is NOT accurate as I will leave the updating of the roster to "S60 SmithHaven Mall". I bascailly just added the equipment together. This is just pure speculation BUT it's fun to do! |
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S-60 To Smith Haven Mall
Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 1757 Location: Suffolk County, NY
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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No the 5A, S56,S58,S60,S62,S71,S76, and S110 will be run out of Suffolk Transportation's New Coram Yard which is located at NYS 112 and Old Middle Country Road. (United Bus Corps yard) [url] http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Suffolk+Transportation+Service,+Inc+in+Coram&hl=en&prmd=imvns&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1024&bih=475&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl[/url] Last year Suffolk Transportation took over the United Bus Corp yard as well as their school bus contracts The Port Jefferson SD (which use to belong to Coram Bus Service) and Mini-Buses for Comsewogue SD.
As for everything else, as far as I heard it is correct. |
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Jimbo
Age: 73 Joined: 13 Apr 2010 Posts: 192 Location: Greenport, NY
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:20 am Post subject: |
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The apparent successful proposer for service group # 1 (routes currently operated by EBT and ICMC) is EBT, not ICMC. |
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S-60 To Smith Haven Mall
Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 1757 Location: Suffolk County, NY
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:50 am Post subject: |
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Jimbo wrote: | The apparent successful proposer for service group # 1 (routes currently operated by EBT and ICMC) is EBT, not ICMC. |
Huh, I guess the person who told the person I heard it from must not want to believe that they could be out of a job. I guess that means that 5053 will be going home again. |
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midnytestorm
Age: 52 Joined: 30 Nov 2011 Posts: 7
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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S-60 To Smith Haven Mall wrote: | Jimbo wrote: | The apparent successful proposer for service group # 1 (routes currently operated by EBT and ICMC) is EBT, not ICMC. |
Huh, I guess the person who told the person I heard it from must not want to believe that they could be out of a job. I guess that means that 5053 will be going home again. |
I was on the S20 and the driver was talking about this very issue. I got the impression that EBT was taking over the Intercounty runs. |
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S-60 To Smith Haven Mall
Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 1757 Location: Suffolk County, NY
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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midnytestorm wrote: | S-60 To Smith Haven Mall wrote: | Jimbo wrote: | The apparent successful proposer for service group # 1 (routes currently operated by EBT and ICMC) is EBT, not ICMC. |
Huh, I guess the person who told the person I heard it from must not want to believe that they could be out of a job. I guess that means that 5053 will be going home again. |
I was on the S20 and the driver was talking about this very issue. I got the impression that EBT was taking over the Intercounty runs. |
Its going to be weird seeing EBT as Operator of the S54, S57, and S63. EBT will now have a route going to all four malls. Walt Whitman(S1,S23,S29,S55), South Shore(2A,2B), Sunrise (S20,S33), and Smith Haven Mall (S57,S63) |
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The TransitMan
Age: 45 Joined: 14 Oct 2010 Posts: 240 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:41 am Post subject: |
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What's going to be weird is not seeing ANY Suffolk Transit buses at Inter-County anymore. Also, I assume that E.B.T. is much bigger and can hold all of those buses along with the current school buses. |
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The TransitMan
Age: 45 Joined: 14 Oct 2010 Posts: 240 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:44 am Post subject: |
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S-60 To Smith Haven Mall wrote: | No the 5A, S56,S58,S60,S62,S71,S76, and S110 will be run out of Suffolk Transportation's New Coram Yard which is located at NYS 112 and Old Middle Country Road. (United Bus Corps yard) [url] http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Suffolk+Transportation+Service,+Inc+in+Coram&hl=en&prmd=imvns&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1024&bih=475&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl[/url] Last year Suffolk Transportation took over the United Bus Corp yard as well as their school bus contracts The Port Jefferson SD (which use to belong to Coram Bus Service) and Mini-Buses for Comsewogue SD.
As for everything else, as far as I heard it is correct. |
Wow. Looks like Suffolk Bus is dominating. Three yards, huh? Well, that should make things easier. |
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midnytestorm
Age: 52 Joined: 30 Nov 2011 Posts: 7
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:01 am Post subject: |
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The TransitMan wrote: | What's going to be weird is not seeing ANY Suffolk Transit buses at Inter-County anymore. Also, I assume that E.B.T. is much bigger and can hold all of those buses along with the current school buses. |
I guess we will have the official answer after the new year starts. |
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