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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2026 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(SEE PREVIOUS POST/LINK)

"The Wanderers"......

Thet two City Subway PCCs which TNJ sold to Cleveland in the 7i0s for the "Shaker", when theywere finally retired, had operated on three properties:

TCRT

PSNJ (City Subway)

Cleveland (Shaker Heights)

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2026 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then, too, were the PCCs that went on to a second life in Mexico........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?34790

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https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?34786

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2026 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Globe trotters"..............

Look at how many areas of the world used American PCCs ended their service lives..............

Canada

Mexico

South America

Spain

Egypt

Yugoslaia

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2026 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recall, also, that it is interesting that, among the PCCs, there were "air cars" and "all electrics"; the Newark City Subway's ex-TCRT cars were "all electric".

Philadelphia, back in the day, rostered a large number of each type.....

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2026 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An outstanding, exhaustive site on Philly's once far-flung, diverse streetcar system; modern day operations also covered.............

www.phillytrolley.org

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2026 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be sure to click on the "PHILADELPHIA TROLLEY HISTORY" link; much of interest, here..... Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2026 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The good old days in Philly, when vintage PCCs still dominated the rails...........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?151087

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?118725

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2026 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PCC's are as pleasant a topic as are Old Look buses. They just look right.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2026 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider wrote:
PCC's are as pleasant a topic as are Old Look buses. They just look right.


Cyberider:

Agreed!

The PCC was indeed "America'sStreetcar"; sleek, stylish, and ATTRACTIVE, unlike today's mutant-looking LRVs................... Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2026 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

....and look at how many postwar streamlined trams in Europe were clearly inspired by PCCs, 60/70-odd years ago........... Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2026 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery............. Wink

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?8971

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?9035

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?9033

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2026 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed. The Dutch did a better job with the PCC's than the Russians did making "old look" buses.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2026 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider wrote:
Agreed. The Dutch did a better job with the PCC's than the Russians did making "old look" buses.


Cyberider:

Funny you mentioned the Russian Old Look buses/trolleybuses; I've read that the Russians (through agreement with GM) copied the YELLOW Old Look design blatantly (even more ironic, their red-and-cream paint invoked MORE than a passing nod to New York's "SURFACE" buses)........

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2026 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Further:

The Russian Old Looks were designated "ZIS-154".

These familiar-looking buses were known as "lightning buses", due to their quick acceleration and speed.

In 1976, these coaches were honored on a Russian postage stamp.....

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2026 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The vintage Moscow Metro cars seen here (since retired) were the systems first postwar rolling stock.

To this day, rumors still abound that these sleel cars were built using "stolen" techology used in the building of the 1948 IRT "R-12" cars.................

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?59529

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?59539

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