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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2025 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider wrote:
NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Further:...............

Note the incredible diversity of buses that operated for the CTA during the 1960s.

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Thanks for the interesting links, NYO. That's the kind of diversity I can live with. (As opposed to the current definition.)


Cyberider:

Growing up in urban northeastern New Jersey 60-odd years ago, the diversity of buses was quite fascinating and colorful.

The old NORTH HUDSON BOULEVARD LINES (local routes) which ran by our apartment building, rostered several models of Old Looks, two models of MACKS, and two models of WHITES.

The last non-GM buses were gone by late 1967.

INTER-CITY (a suburban company) also ran by our building; they operated suburban ACF-BRILL C-44s, WHITE 798s (also 1150s), and Old Looks..

The old ":indy" companies in nearby Jersey City and Hoboken, back then, were still running some buses which dated back to the later 1930s and early 1940s.

As you can see from the old photos on the page whose link I posted, the CTA, through the 1960s, operated a fleet which indeed personified "diverse".......it is no wonder that so many enthusiasts were out their with their cameras, snapping away!

Ahhhh, the memories............

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2025 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Living at what was then the outskirts of Phoenix, the only street with buses was a block away. They didn't run very often but loved seeing and hearing the Old Looks when they did and I'd occasionally go somewhere on them with my mother. Hated it when those weird looking and sounding New Look buses came on the scene!
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2025 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Living at what was then the outskirts of Phoenix, the only street with buses was a block away. They didn't run very often but loved seeing and hearing the Old Looks when they did and I'd occasionally go somewhere on them with my mother. Hated it when those weird looking and sounding New Look buses came on the scene!


Cyberider:

Hudson County's main thoroughfare was Hudson Boulevard (today's Kennedy Boulevard); the grey and red NHBL buses on the #1 local and the #5 (to New York) passed by frequently; during the summer, there was also the always-crowded #2, a special run that went beyond the northern terminal of the #1, to serve the now-defunct Palisades Amusement Park.

Mom and I rode these buses often; I could sit at our front room window (3rd floor) and look (northwest) up the boulevard, and watch all the buses (*oine stio was right by our building; southbound buses (to Journal Square) was on the opposite corner.

Rush hours saw the buses literally in packs; service was even more frequent.

INTER-CITY's brown and orange suburbans (on the now long-gone #97, running between JSQ and Paterson) passed by about every 15/20 minutes.

Mom and I rode this line out to Bergen Mall, to shop at our favorite store, Newberry's.

Fishbowls did not arrive until about 1967; I called them "Jetson" buses, because they looked so futuristic!

I always liked the Fishbowls (I have many vintage toy Fishbowls in my collection today!), but DIDN'T like that they displaced the oldest Old Looks, as well as all the non-GM buses.

Remarkably, several Old Looks held on until 1986!

Today, NJT runs what used to be the #1 and the #5 (both re-numbered); the buses these days are all boxy NABIs, which don't run all that often, especially whencompared to the frequent headways of my childhood days.

"Dollar vans" (which I HATE!) far outnumber the NJT buses; the last Fishbowls disappeared in 1997.

I am most grateful for my many childhood memories (it's no wonder that, according to Mom, I went NUTS for buses before I even turned ONE!) Wink

Indeed, those WERE the days, and I cherish each and every wonderful memory I have, regarding those classic buses from so long ago! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2025 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps one of the more obscure "L" operations were the funeral trains which ran over the "L" until 1934.

See:

https://chicagoandcookcountycemeteries.com/2017/08/22/funeral-trains-serving-the-cemeteries/

Though Boston, New York, and Philadelphia all operated elevated lines, Chicago was the only city to offer funeral train service (two rare photos and a map are also included here; scroll down page))..........

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2025 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also of interest:

https://chicagoandcookcountycemeteries.com/category/funeral-trains-and-streetcars/

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2025 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of related interested, here we have the interesting history of the long-abandoned (now demolished) "CALVARY" station on the "L".......

https://www.chicago-l.org/stations/calvary.html

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2025 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Further...........

The last survivor of the "L's' funeral car fleet was trailer #756 (later re-numbered #2756)

The car was equipped, however, with trolley poles and third-rail shoes, for current collection while stationary (for lighting, heating, operation of medical equipment, etc.,in later years.)

During its years as a funeral car, it was always positioned at the head of a train (this car was a control trailer unit)

Basically, the car looked much like a combine, but with gothic windows on the sliding doors, through which the coffins were originally loaded/unloaded.

This unique car was built by "BARNEY & SMITH" in 1898.

After funeral service ended, this unique wooden car was converted into a mobile medical examination car, and could be found not only at various CRT/CTA locations, but also, on sidings convenient for CA&E and CNS&M, where their men could also be examined.

The car also had a telephone line, which could be connected to any lineside pole.

Over the years, the medical equipment became more advanced, and featured illuminated eye charts, a blood-pressure machine, and other modern additions.

Sadly, this unique car, a car with quite an interesting history, was scrapped in 1953.

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After the CTA pulled the plug on its trolleybus network in 1973, 124 coaches were sold for further service in Guadalajara..........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?157252

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?157253

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?157254

(courtesty: nycsubway.org)

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2025 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roster/info on Chicago's trolleybuses............

www.trolleybuses.net/chi/chi.htm

(courtesy: tomstrolleybuses)
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2025 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And, now, I suppose they want battery buses, if they don't already have them.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2025 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider wrote:
And, now, I suppose they want battery buses, if they don't already have them.


Cyberider:

Strangely enough, battery-powered buses are nothing new.

This short-lived London company began operating battery buses in 1907:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Electrobus_Company

Interestingly, a number of US cities once either experimented with battery-powered streetcars, or used them in revenue service, in the early years of the last century.........

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2025 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an interesting article (w/ some historical content)........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/battery-electric_bus

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2025 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Short video on Chicago streetcars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3iKQUTXUZs
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2025 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyberider wrote:
Short video on Chicago streetcars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3iKQUTXUZs


Cyberider:

Thanks!

Will enjoy watching this later this evening! Wink

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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2025 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting.........

For decades, new NYCTA and MTA subway cars were delivered by rail and carfloat.

Today, new rolling stock arrives solely by flatbed.

In Chicago, the new 6000-series cars were also delivered by rail.

The new rapid transit cars were delivered on flat cars which were hauled by CNS&M steeplecab engines, after the flat cars were handed over by a connecting railroad.

These cars arrived on CTA property (Skokie Shops) via the North Shore lines "electric freight"............

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