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N4 Jamaica · Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 868 Location: Long Island

Septa artic 7350 may have bullet holes, as a fusillade of bullets maimed high school students in northeast Philadelphia, 3 p.m., March 6, 2024. Nobody inside a bus was struck. This happened near Rising Sun and Cottman Avenues in the neighborhood of Burholme.
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As of 3.11.2024, two of four suspects have been apprehended. See lengthy description from WHYY.
[url]https://whyy.org/articles/two-18-year-olds-charged-in-mass-shooting-at-septa-bus-stop/
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N4 Jamaica · Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 868 Location: Long Island

I'm still trying to figure out which bus the 8 victims were trying to board, as they seem to have walked a third of a mile along Cottman to board the 67 or 70. By the way, the 16-year-old who received the most bullets is said to have been the intended target.
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In streetcar days, I think Rising Sun was route 50. Where was its northern terminus? I think it passed St. William's church.

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 3:57 pm Post subject:

Joe:

PTC/SEPTA streetcar line #50 started at Fox Chase on Oxford, then ran along Rising Sun (for a time, the #50 cars shared the rails with the #47, which was bussed in 1969)

The #50 eventually terminated at 6th Street and Oregon Avenue.

The #50 cars were replaced by buses in 1980............

"NYO"

["50 RISING SUN-OLNEY"]

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:22 pm Post subject:

Footnote:

According to what I found online, the #50 was only supposed to be "temporarily" bused, and residents clamored for the return of the streetcars.

But, once the tracks were paved over/ripped out, and the overhead cut down, everyone knew it was all over.

Today's present-day #50 bus runs from the Frankford Transit Center to Parx Casino & Racetrack.

Along with several other lines, #50 streetcars were stabled at the Luzerne car house; today, the old building still stands, but is no longer used by SEPTA......

Footnote:

SEPTA has had a long track record of "temporarily" converting streetcar lines to bus, only to have the streetcars never return.

I recall one streetcar line that had been OOS for some years; SEPTA announced streetcars were coming back, and went through all the expense and effort of re-installing a section of missing track, and putting up new overhead.

Guess what?

The new tracks were later paved over, and the new overhead taken down.

Beyond insanity...............

"NYO"

[Philadelphia Transit Company"]

N4 Jamaica · Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 868 Location: Long Island

Northbound 50 with a short turnback at 5th & Erie.
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Philadelphia 1979. by sphoto33, on Flickr

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:11 pm Post subject:

Joe:

As you know, Philly was still very much of a "streetcar city" until the SEPTA era; SEPTA, right from the get-go, seemed a very "pro rubber" agency.

Recall, though, the rich diversity of both "air cars" and "all-electric" PCCs through the 1970s.

I well recall the massive blaze that destroyed a number of PCCs at the 49th/Woodland car house in 1976 (10 alarms)

Too, think of the many other car houses that once housed the huge streetcar fleet, including Luzerne, 26th/Allegheny, Germantown, 32nd/Ridge, Richmond/Allegheny, Frankford, Kensington.

The present-day subway-surface lines echo the Newark City Subway during its heyday of serving surface cars........

"NYO"

["40 FRONT-SOUTH"]

N4 Jamaica · Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 868 Location: Long Island

The fourth juvenile involved in the March 6 Burholme shooting was captured in an apartment on Seaton Avenue in Alexandria, Virginia, March 19, 2024.
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https://6abc.com/septa-bus-stop-shooting-us-marshals-asir-boone-in-custody-alexandria-virginia/14545253/

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 · Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:15 pm Post subject:

Certainly hope he gets more than the now-universal slap on the wrist and is put away for a good long while, so he cannot harm others............

"NYO"

N4 Jamaica · Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 868 Location: Long Island

A fifth suspect was arrested today. He was inside Dunkin', using a cell phone to help the shooters target their victims.
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/5th-suspect-arrested-in-shooting-near-septa-bus-that-injured-8-students/3809729/
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CORRECTION. The article at nbcphiladelphia says Route 18. which makes sense. This bus leaves Fox Chase Loop and its seventh stop is Rising Sun Ave. and Cottman, where the assault happened. The bus then makes 22 more stops on Rising Sun until it turns west on Olney.