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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 11:48 am Post subject: |
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W.B. Fishbowl wrote: | Interesting that TZ made its debut within the exact same time period the first Fishbowls were being produced and introduced onto city streets, highways, and so on. |
W.B;
What "background info" can you provide on the one still from the "TZ" episode where we see the intersection with the Old Look, Fishbowl, and SURFACE Mack?
Any idea of what routes those buses might have been operating on, or where the intersection was?
At any rate, the Fishbowl had to be pretty new at the time (the newest of the autos/cabs in the photo seem to be from about 1962)
Thanks for any info....
"NYO"
["You are now entering......the Twilight Zone"]
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W.B. Fishbowl
Age: 57 Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 2410 Location: New York, New York, USA
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 11:58 am Post subject: |
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I seem to remember it was around early 1963 we began seeing the dark green color scheme for MaBSTOA buses as was in that shot taken facing south on Fifth Avenue with 42nd Street shown. Had to have preceded the first of the "made-for-MaBSTOA" Fishbowl order (3301-3555), of which Amsterdam and 132nd Street would have gotten within the middle of that range - the former depot the first half, the latter the second. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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W.B. Fishbowl wrote: | Interesting that TZ made its debut within the exact same time period the first Fishbowls were being produced and introduced onto city streets, highways, and so on. |
W.B.:
In the TZ episode "Cavender Is Coming" (starring Carol Burnett) the Fishbowl used in the episode (from the Culver City fleet) was still virtually "showroom new" when that episode was filmed.....
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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W.B. Fishbowl wrote: | I seem to remember it was around early 1963 we began seeing the dark green color scheme for MaBSTOA buses as was in that shot taken facing south on Fifth Avenue with 42nd Street shown. Had to have preceded the first of the "made-for-MaBSTOA" Fishbowl order (3301-3555), of which Amsterdam and 132nd Street would have gotten within the middle of that range - the former depot the first half, the latter the second. |
W.B.:
Thanks, as always, for your input!
The SURFACE Mack had to be getting a wee bit "long-in-the-tooth" by the time that "TZ" episode aired in the early 1960's.
Then, too, that ACF-BRILL IC-41 and the other vintage highway coach......
"NYO"
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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traildriver:
Earlier, I mentioned the 1950's mechanical "ROBOT BUS" (made in Brooklyn, USA!) that I've had in my archives for many years......
https://www.mearsonlineauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=53174
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W.B. Fishbowl
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 4:41 am Post subject: |
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One of the first 149 (3601-3749) out of the 350-bus order for the 'Tee-Yay' from 1963 that was allotted to 126th Street 'MAN' depot. Sounds like with all those (plus 1960 Fishbowls in the 500's), there would've been no room for any of the 165 'Dangerfields' ordered in 1964, no?
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W.B. Fishbowl
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 4:46 am Post subject: |
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The first bus screencap was of a Yellow 718 from 1935, one of the first which showed 'NEW YORK CITY OMNIBUS CORPORATION' on the sides rather than 'MADISON AVENUE COACH COMPANY, INC.' or 'EIGHTH AVENUE COACH CORPORATION'.
The second, a GM TD-4506 from 1946.
No doubt both repainted. |
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 10:15 am Post subject: |
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W.B.:
Great info; thanks for sharing!
Recall, how we've been talking a great deal on the often-ignored "Dangerfields".......think about this; back in the Fishbowl era, we saw far more of the Fishbowls than we ever saw of the "Dangerfields", in the "Noo Yawk" films of that time.
And, of course, especially back in the 70's, no survival-minded filmmaker was looking to spend too much time in "Da Bronx", if it could be at all helped........
"NYO"
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NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 BusTalk's Offical Welcoming Committee
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 10:27 am Post subject: |
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MaBSTOA's 132nd St. yard (1972).......and, as you can see, not a "Dangerfield" in sight.........
https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?153837
(courtesy: nycsubway.irg)
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