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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"ROCKAWAY, HERE WE COME!" (1956)........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?75677

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?75688

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"BACK TO THE FUTURE" (2014)........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?158898

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?158899

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's another intresting page on the Rockaway line......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IND_Rockaway_Line
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of related interest:

https://www.nycsubway.org/wiki/IND_Fulton_Street__Line
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See also:

https://www.forgotten-ny.com/2000/04/long-island-railroad-rockaway-branch

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The old ex-LIRR station house at Rockaway Park/Beach 116th St. today serves IND trains of the Rockaway line......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?107652

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Memories (IND station, Rockaway Park/Beach 116th)........

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1989 *

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?24431 **

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?80157 ***

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?2433

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?12987

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*Note the "HH" route designation; originally, from 1936 through 1946, "HH" was the designation for the short-lived shuttle that ran between Court St. (today's Transit Museum) and Hoyt-Schemerhorn.

**Note that this R-16 is displaying an IND "A" sign, instead of the usual BMT numbers

***Note the single IND R-9 signed for the "GG", alongside the train of "Slant" R-40's (1969)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a strong sense, both the BMT and the IND could both be classified as "The Subways That Went To The Sea".

Even before the first section of the INTERBOROUGH subway opened in 1904, the BRT was already serving Coney Island ("The Boardwalk Empire") via several busy elevated routes radiating out of Park Row.

By 1919/1920, the new Stillwell Avenue terminal replaced both the former West End and Culver depots; at these locations, the El trains utilized overhead trolley wire.

A multitude of streetcar lines, like the El trains, also crossed the Brooklyn Bridge, heading out to Coney Island.

It would not be until 1956, however, that the IND reached out (literally) into the sea, via the former LIRR Rockaway line.........

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"SUBWAY TO THE SEA" *

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?126444

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?26380

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*Back in the days of elevated cars and subway cars that featured opening windows, passengers heading for the ocean enjoyed the tangy, briny, bracing salt-tinged breezes that wafted their the otherwise hot cars.

Today's sealed-window rolling stock has long-since ended such a "bonus"......

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"CONEY ISLAND' UNKNOWN TROLLEY"

https://www.forgotten-ny.com/1999/10/nortons-point-trolley-brooklyn/

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remembering the streetcars on the Norton's Point line......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?58745

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?141074

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?141075

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?141018

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?7857

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"STREETCARS TO THE SEA".......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?141071

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?141072

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?140986

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?141000

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riding out to Coney Island via either a convertible streetcar or elevated train was a great way to "catch the breeze", in the days when air-conditioning was still a long time coming.

The last of the old BRT/BMT convertible El cars ran on the Myrtle Avenue line in 1958.......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?140881

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?31213 (ERA excursion)

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?6617

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?112537

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just came across these photos of pre-1920 BRT el trains utilizing trolley poles......

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?117053

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?141879

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I presume that image 141879 was taken somewhere between Dollar Tree and St. Jude's church in Canarsie. It shows well why elevated 3rd rail had no protection board. The shoe dropped down onto the rail. Why five men are needed on a three-car train is a puzzle.
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