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Now it's time to say good-bye...to the faithful RTS.....
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recalling the RTS era on STEINWAY.......

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?1400

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?402

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?398

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?400

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was looking for info about the RTS on the Altoona Bus Test website; I did not see a test performed for NYCT RTSs but I did find this report issued for NJT RTS-06 built by Nova:

http://apps.altoonabustest.psu.edu/buses/reports/315.pdf?1268425127
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Q65A:

It had to be very interesting, back in the day, when different properties were putting demo models through their paces; this had to be especially fun to see people's expressions when they first saw a demo RTS.....indeed, it was a bus they had previously NOT seen the likes of! Shocked

I still miss ACADEMY's fleet; likewise, NJT's.

To me, it seemed that they (NJT's) were not around all that long, compared to some other models in their fleet.

Speaking of demos, there are several photos in Evan T. McCausland's "RAPID TRANSIT SERIES BUSES" that show two NJT Millennium demos parked outside Penn Station, Newark.

These buses were #'s 4101 and 4201..........

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two nostalgic views of RTS #200 (on the B63), in 1979.

(LOVE that dash "treatment"!)

Man, where has forty years gotten to? Confused

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?225

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?226

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
Two nostalgic views of RTS #200 (on the B63), in 1979.

(LOVE that dash "treatment"!)

Man, where has forty years gotten to? Confused

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?225

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?226

(courtesy: bus.nycsubway.org)

It's interesting that 200 was also the number of the "demo" bus of Flxible F2D6V-401-1 that the TA ran on the M-3 49th-50th Streets Crosstown and Q-44 - Main Street lines in 1963, before their purchases of a total of 355 such buses between 1964 and 1965-66.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.B.:

Interesting bit of trivia! Wink

IMHO, "demo" buses (at least in New York) seemed to have been almost virtually ignored by the bus photographers of that day; there ARE some photos, to be sure, but not all that many.

Like the Fishbowl. the RTS was truly a timeless design; it is still hard to believe that the basic design dates back over 40 years now......

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just curious......

Anywhere here chase (and snap photos) of the RTS "demo days" in the City?

Also, anyone on the board take photos of the RTS as they were just entering service?

If so, please post 'em here....... Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A tribute to NYCT RTSs from Mass Transit magazine:
https://www.masstransitmag.com/bus/vehicles/article/21079719/nyct-says-goodbye-to-the-big-blues-whites
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for sharing!! Wink

Will certainly enjoy reading this later on today..... Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FDR Drive & 23rd St., 1997........

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3465


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Broadway & 173rd, 1982................

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3272

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Columbus Avenue & 72nd St. 1981.......

http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?3257

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is interesting:

In the book "RAPID TRANSIT SERIES BUSES" (McCausland) there is an interesting photo showing a radio built into the dash, that was supposed to be for the entertainment of passengers.

The photo caption beneath the picture states that GM offered a host of radios as optional equipment; few buses, not surprisingly, were equipped with these radios, and even fewer had the deluxe AM-FM stereo system that was also being offered.

Given New York's diverse and eclectic tastes in music (then and now) I think it is a safe bet to say that such "on-board entertainment systems" would not have worked in New York, aboard the RTS or any other city bus, for that matter..............

"NYO"
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEW YORK OMNIBUS 2629 wrote:
This is interesting:

In the book "RAPID TRANSIT SERIES BUSES" (McCausland) there is an interesting photo showing a radio built into the dash, that was supposed to be for the entertainment of passengers.

The photo caption beneath the picture states that GM offered a host of radios as optional equipment; few buses, not surprisingly, were equipped with these radios, and even fewer had the deluxe AM-FM stereo system that was also being offered.

Given New York's diverse and eclectic tastes in music (then and now) I think it is a safe bet to say that such "on-board entertainment systems" would not have worked in New York, aboard the RTS or any other city bus, for that matter..............

"NYO"


However...now there is an "on board entertainment system", that makes everyone happy...
the USB plug-ins on the newest buses...wifi may be coming soon, too... Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

traildriver:

While on the subject of bus radios, recall GREYHOUND's PERSONALIZED RADIO SERVICE", which debuted about 1962.

The company installed individually-controlled Motorola AM radios above every passenger seat aboard a limited number of SCENICRUISERS; at the time, GREYHOUND operated through services between Montreal and Florida, and these buses were also fitted with these radios.

Each radio contained a station selector, volume control knob, and a headphone plug; these radios were mounted above the seats, on the undersides of the overhead luggage racks.

A "whip-type" antenna, some eight feet long, was mounted on the center of the lower roof deck.

Initially, these radios were free to all passengers, but, later, GREYHOUND charged a $1.00 rental fee; from what I've read, this fee was supposedly implemented to recoup some of the maintenance costs of the radio system.

The boxes on the baggage racks were prone to getting whacked by passengers stuffing their luggage onto the racks; the wiring was also prone to breakage, and the antenna on the roof was often either broken or bent when the buses were washed.

Surprisingly, GREYHOUND touted these radios very little; they were only highlighted occasionaly in timetables or brochures.

Most of the radio equipment was removed from the buses (about 60 in all); however, a few of the radio-equipped buses still survive today.

The personalized radios were also used on "XL" service runs, as late as 1968-1969 (HOUSTON-SAN ANTONIO/ST. LOUIS-KANSAS CITY).......

"NYO"

(Source: "GREYHOUND SCENICRUISER" (McNALLY/RAYMAN)
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